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Finés o finlandés

Llevaba mucho tiempo preguntándome cuál de las dos palabras era más apropiado usar tanto para el gentilicio como para el idioma de Finlandia. Mandé un mail a la RAE y esto fue lo que respondieron:

finés, sa. ‘De Finlandia’. Referido a persona, se usa frecuentemente como sustantivo: «Aunque los fineses hablen de los suecos como si fueran imperialistas, en Suecia había campo, seguridad, futuro» (Padilla Jardín [Cuba 1981]). Como sustantivo masculino designa la lengua que hablan los habitantes de Finlandia: «Hay quien le encuentra [al turco] un lejano parentesco con el húngaro y el finés» (Tibón Aventuras [Méx. 1986]). Es, pues, sinónimo de finlandés; no obstante, en el uso suele preferirse la voz finlandés como gentilicio de Finlandia y finés como nombre del idioma que se habla en dicho país. Además, finés es el gentilicio de un antiguo pueblo que habitó diversos territorios del norte de Europa y fue el que dio nombre a Finlandia, valor este del que carece finlandés.

finlandés, sa. ‘De Finlandia’. Referido a persona, se usa frecuentemente como sustantivo: «Valentina, una finlandesa educadísima, [...] terminó también por transigir ante la evidencia» (Palou Carne [Esp. 1975]). Como sustantivo masculino designa la lengua que hablan los habitantes de Finlandia: «Es autora [...] del único libro existente en finlandés sobre arte español contemporáneo» (País [Esp.] 2.3.80). Ambos sentidos los tiene también la voz finés. Ahora bien, en el uso suele preferirse la voz finlandés como gentilicio de Finlandia y finés como nombre del idioma que se habla en dicho país.

Resumiendo: son términos prácticamente sinónimos y se pueden usar indistintamente. Sin embargo, finés se suele usar para el idioma y finlandés para el gentilicio. Finés además posee un significado adicional: denomina a una etnia de la que provienen los finlandeses. En inglés, esta última acepción, se puede traducir como “Finn”.

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38 Comentarios a “Finés o finlandés”

  1. mar Dijo:

    Muy curioso, si señor!
    Y como me voy a la cama… “nunca te acostarás sin aprender algo nuevo!”
    Un bso!!

  2. natalia Dijo:

    Oye y una preguntilla, como se te da aprenderlo, independiente de como se llame. Lo digo porque lo estoy intentando y en fin, me lo paso muy bien pero avanzar lo que se dice avanzar.

  3. tazair Dijo:

    Digamos que muy muy lentamente. También es cierto que no le dedico mucho tiempo, pero aún así es un idioma muy difícil de aprender. Recuerdo haber leído por ahí que es el cuarto idioma más difícil. Llevo aquí un año y medio y me es imposible seguir una conversación. Sólo sé decir ciertas cosas básicas. Ya publicaré una post con las principales características del finés, pero cuando tenga tiempo.

    Por cierto natalia ?Por qué estás estudiando finés?. La verdad que antes de venir no era un idioma que tenía en mi lista de posibles idiomas a aprender.

  4. natalia Dijo:

    humm…Mitä sinä ajatelet? Eikö ole ilmeinen vai odotettu ? rakkaus! ;)

    (increible no me ha costado tanto como creía)

    Bueno eso y que todo el mundo me dijo que no me molestara, que incluso viviendo allí era imposible y como soy un poco cabezota pues ya ves. Además me aburro bastante en el trabajo.
    Mi nivel de ingles me permite despreocuparme bastante de otros idiomas (como hacen los Ingleses) asi que esto, es por diversión más que nada, dudo que nunca alcance un nivel que me permita mantener una conversación en Finlandes, más aún no viviendo allí pero bueno.

  5. natalia Dijo:

    Bueno todo eso y que los lenguajes de programación ya no me llenan, jaja..

    Oye, y en vez de escribir ese post ¿por qué no enlazas uno (o varios) de los muchos que hay en Internet? Si te interesa hay muchos más recursos de los que esperaba encontrarme, aunque con el tiempo que llevas alli supongo que ya conocerás la mayoria y alguno más.

  6. amanezer Dijo:

    Tienes razón, se puede hasta “aprender” lo básico de finés (me sigue gustando más esa palabra aunque no sea correctísima) online. Pero si tienes links, siempre serán bienvenidos. Probablemente alguno habrá que se haya escapado.
    Diría que es imposible que un lenguaje de programación te llene… pero he visto a quien sí le ocurre (increíble pero cierto :P )

    :o )

  7. tazair Dijo:

    Entre amanezer y yo sacamos hace tiempo algunos enlaces. Si tú tienes alguno te lo agradecería que los pasaras y prometo que antes del fin de semana hay algo con cierta forma publicado. Por cierto: En tieda mitä ilmeinen ja odtettu tarkoittaa. Voitko sinä sanoa minulle?

  8. natalia Dijo:

    Ups…solo para assegurarme, me preguntas que que queria decir, ¿no? Que al final vamos a liar las cosas cada vez más, es que me ha salido una frase un poco churro, luego se la mandé a una amiga Finlandesa y casi se muere de risa, eso es lo que le provoco cada vez que intento escribir algo en suomea.
    Quería decir “No es obvio o predecible?” Parece que la frase correcta hubiera sido: “eikö se ole ilmeistä ja odotettavissa olevaa?”

    Ahora te pongo unos links, mi colección de ellos está un poco fuera de control, así me organizo un poco.

  9. tazair Dijo:

    La mia tampoco creo que fuera muy correcta, pero al menos parece que has entendido lo que te quería decir . Es lo importante ha habido comunicacion. :-p

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